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Puzznic (USA)

Post by Kito1984 » November 21st, 2020, 7:00 am

No music after start of the game. Tested with Menu System V2.6.27, in all EXTDSP modes.

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by ortape » November 21st, 2020, 9:16 am

Try your disc; it's the same.

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 21st, 2020, 1:11 pm

All the videos I see from the game have music.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by ortape » November 21st, 2020, 1:24 pm

And your disc?

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 21st, 2020, 1:44 pm

ortape wrote: November 21st, 2020, 1:24 pmAnd your disc?
It appears this is an unverified Redump rip: http://redump.org/disc/16339/

It doesn't have music even in emulators, so it appears the dumper made a bad rip.

If somebody has this game on the original retail disc, please check it out.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by ortape » November 21st, 2020, 1:48 pm

You may think of me as your "somebody".

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 21st, 2020, 1:52 pm

ortape wrote: November 21st, 2020, 1:48 pm You may think of me as your "somebody".
You actually have the retail disc of this game? If it's just a CD-R, it doesn't matter because it would be from the same source as Redump.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by ortape » November 21st, 2020, 2:03 pm

I do, and if there were any problem playing its image with PSIO I would have submitted a bug report after making damn sure I wasn't wasting anyone's valuable time.

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 21st, 2020, 2:19 pm

ortape wrote: November 21st, 2020, 2:03 pm I do, and if there were any problem playing its image with PSIO I would have submitted a bug report after making damn sure I wasn't wasting anyone's valuable time.
This might mean there was a defective batch of CDs with this game printed. Or maybe the US versions is simply bugged? Either way, it's very good we are aware of this now.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Kito1984 » November 21st, 2020, 5:39 pm

ortape wrote: November 21st, 2020, 9:16 am Try your disc; it's the same.
Yes, thanks, it seems to be the case. I just found several similar problems with music and thought they were probably caused by one bug. Also there is music in youtube videos, but they are probably from NTSC-J version. This is useful nonetheless because now anyone can find this problem on forum and be informed that this is retail disc problem. It's very weird for retail discs to have such problems, and the game feels very "empty" without music...

Please, archive this, Matt, I'm sorry I didn't try this from CD.

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by bikerspade » November 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm

I confirmed there is no music with the redump copy of Puzznic (USA) using various emulators on a PC, including mednafen. The redump copy of Puzznic (Japan) seems to have working audio.

Oddly enough, this YouTube video of the game is from the USA disc, which sometimes has working audio, but sometimes does not.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by bikerspade » November 21st, 2020, 6:12 pm

This issue with the retail disc was reported back in 2003. https://www.ngemu.com/threads/puzznic-r ... psx.38124/

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 21st, 2020, 6:34 pm

Was this published by Midas in the USA? I can totally see Midas printing a broken beta version of the game and selling it, to be honest.
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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Matt » November 23rd, 2020, 1:40 am

This game doesn't set CdlSetmode properly for playing XA. It's a bug in the programming itself. If the game were hacked this code could be injected to make it work, but there must be fixed version of it which works which the company released :)

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Re: Puzznic (USA)

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » November 23rd, 2020, 2:15 am

Midas never fixed the US release, it seems.
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