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"Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » August 7th, 2020, 10:47 pm

not the correct work of the "CD" image "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" - on the "CD" besides the game itself, there are two demos of the game "NINJA shadow of darkness, Tomb Raider 3". "Fighting Force" itself only works with the k1v2 setting, but "NINJA shadow of darkness, Tomb Raider 3" does not work with this setting. with default settings "Menu System" does not work "Fighting Force", but work "Tomb Raider 3" and cannot return to the "CD" menu - freezes.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 10th, 2020, 9:06 pm

"Menu System V2.6.17" has the same problems - not resolved

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by Matt » September 10th, 2020, 10:03 pm

It is most likely the same problem which the DEMO discs had. Are you using Midboot?

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 10th, 2020, 11:05 pm

Matt wrote:
September 10th, 2020, 10:03 pm
It is most likely the same problem which the DEMO discs had. Are you using Midboot?
this problem in all "EXTDSP" and "Midboot" modes

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » September 11th, 2020, 3:58 am

Fighting Force works only with K1V2 and the demos don't work K1V2. It's not really a bug. As long as the EXTDSP modes are needed, I don't' see a way around this. However, you can still use the demos by simply booting Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1) via Midboot and playing the demos. Then, to play Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1), you need to restart it with K1V2.
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Post by AMG13 » September 11th, 2020, 4:15 am

main problem, "Tomb Raider 3" cannot return to the "CD" menu - freezes.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » September 11th, 2020, 5:03 am

AMG13 wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 4:15 am
main problem, "Tomb Raider 3" cannot return to the "CD" menu - freezes.
Very strange. The NINJA demo exits with no issues, but the Tomb Raider 3 demo does indeed freeze on a black screen, no matter if it's Midboot or K1V1-4.

It can be filed as a PSIO bug for sure.
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Post by Takehaniyasubiko » September 11th, 2020, 10:02 pm

Sorry for the double post, but I noticed the disc image with Fighting Force 1.1 doesn't even load correctly. Before the selection menu shows on the screen, there should be a black screen. On PSIO, you see a screen with Lara Croft and that should only appear after exiting the Tomb Raider 3 demo.

There's definitely something wrong here.
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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 12th, 2020, 6:38 am

Takehaniyasubiko wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 10:02 pm
Sorry for the double post, but I noticed the disc image with Fighting Force 1.1 doesn't even load correctly. Before the selection menu shows on the screen, there should be a black screen. On PSIO, you see a screen with Lara Croft and that should only appear after exiting the Tomb Raider 3 demo.

There's definitely something wrong here.
Thanks for the detailed testing.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 16th, 2020, 7:44 am

in the game "Fighting Force" at 2, 3, 4 levels the music does not work - regression.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » September 16th, 2020, 7:52 am

AMG13 wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 7:44 am
in the game "Fighting Force" at 2, 3, 4 levels the music does not work - regression.
Even with K1V2?

If yes, it must be related to the missing audio bug in Adidas Power Soccer and Advanced V.G. 2.
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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 16th, 2020, 7:56 am

Takehaniyasubiko wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 7:52 am
AMG13 wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 7:44 am
in the game "Fighting Force" at 2, 3, 4 levels the music does not work - regression.
Even with K1V2?

If yes, it must be related to the missing audio bug in Adidas Power Soccer and Advanced V.G. 2.
yes, there is a "K1V2" file in the game folder.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by Takehaniyasubiko » September 16th, 2020, 9:01 am

My guess is that the fix for Roswell Conspiracies caused some issues with the CD-DA playback report in other games. Again, a matter of finding the perfect timings in emulation.

It can be something totally different, of course, but I think the only audio-related change in V2.6.17-18 was the Roswell fix.
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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 16th, 2020, 6:02 pm

update of the report.
Yesterday when I started the game the file "K1V2" for some reason did not work and for this the music at 2, 3, 4 levels did not work. today I tested the game again but with the "EXTDSP - K1V2" setting and now the music started to stop towards the end of the level. on "CD-R" music is played to the end of the level - the music doesn't stop.

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by dada1212 » September 16th, 2020, 7:56 pm

Regression again after the update?

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Re: "Fighting Force (USA) (v1.1)" [Menu System V2.6.16]

Post by AMG13 » September 17th, 2020, 3:08 am

dada1212 wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 7:56 pm
Regression again after the update?
most likely it won't take long to fix.

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